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第一銀行 (FRBA) 2026年第三季度業績電話會:息差擴大,2027年貸款目標上調

2026-10-23 20:09

第一銀行(NASDAQ:FRBA)公佈2026年第三季度盈利能力有所增強,得益於淨息差擴大、貸款和存款增長以及運營效率提升。管理層還提高了季度股息,批准了一項新的股票回購計劃,並提出了更高的2027年貸款增長目標。

要點速覽

  • 淨利潤為1220萬美元,即每股攤薄收益0.49美元,攤薄每股收益較上一季度增加0.06美元(即12.5%)。平均資產回報率達到1.18%。
  • 税收等效淨息差環比擴大6個基點至3.74%,這得益於貸款收益率上升、嚴謹的存款定價以及資產負債表優化。
  • 貸款增加5020萬美元,年化增長約6%;同時存款增加4300萬美元,年化增長約5%。
  • 效率比率改善至52.4%(第二季度為54.5%)。非利息支出為2030萬美元,相當於平均資產的1.97%。
  • 董事會將季度股息提高了33%至每股0.12美元,並授權回購最多120萬股,總金額最高達2400萬美元,有效期至2027年9月。
  • 管理層的目標是將2027年貸款增長設定為接近3億美元,高於近年來的約2億美元年度目標。

核心財務數據

指標 2026年第三季度業績 變動或背景
淨利潤 1220萬美元 受淨利息收入增長和運營紀律推動
攤薄每股收益 0.49 美元 環比增加 0.06 美元,增幅 12.5%
平均資產回報率 1.18% 隨着盈利能力增強而有所改善
撥備前平均資產回報率 1.79% 環比上升 8 個基點
淨利息收入 — 環比增加 200 萬美元,增幅 5.6%;同比增加 120 萬美元,增幅 3.4%
税收等值淨息差 3.74% 環比上升 6 個基點
貸款收益率 6.48% 環比上升 15 個基點
總存款成本 2.47% 環比上升 5 個基點
貸款增長 5020 萬美元 年化增長約 6%
存款增長 4300 萬美元 年化增長約 5%;若扣除經紀存款流失則為 8700 萬美元
撥備費用 220 萬美元 環比基本持平
淨壞賬覈銷 190 萬美元 高於第二季度的 160 萬美元;主要是 Business Express 商業快捷貸款
不良資產 3570 萬美元 本季度略有增加
信用損失準備 佔貸款總額的 1.37% 相當於不良貸款的約 132%
非利息收入 200 萬美元 低於第二季度的 210 萬美元
非利息支出 2030 萬美元 環比小幅增加
效率比率 52.4% 較第二季度的 54.5% 有所改善
每股有形賬面價值 16.59 美元 高於 6 月 30 日的 16.27 美元;年化增長率近 8%

業務與經營業績

商業貸款驅動了資產負債表的增長。工商業貸款(C&I)、自用型商業地產貸款和建築貸款引領了本季度的貸款擴張。工商業貸款佔總貸款的22.5%,相比之下,一年前為21.9%。

第一銀行本季度簽約併發放了1.24億美元的新貸款,同時貸款還清額放緩至5300萬美元。包括自用商業地產在內的工商業貸款佔新業務的65%(截至9月30日)。投資型房地產貸款約佔30%,其余為消費貸款。

貸款管道中預計發放的資金達到3.63億美元(截至9月30日),較3月和6月季末平均水平增長約12%。管理層表示,業務機會分佈在區域貸款、SBA貸款、私募股權、資產擔保貸款和投資型房地產領域。

融資金額調配措施包括償還9000萬美元的批發借款,減少4400萬美元的經紀存款,併購買了約5700萬美元的低風險投資證券,其收益率高於現金。

本季度平均無息存款增加了3200萬美元,但期末余額下降了4870萬美元(相比6月30日)。管理層將這一時點對比的減少部分歸因於正常波動,同時指出定價壓力上升。

信貸成本仍集中在 Business Express 業務。今年迄今約95%的壞賬覈銷(在總額約850萬美元的今年迄今覈銷額中)來自該組合,而 Business Express 之外的核銷額接近於零。管理層報告稱,10 月份新問題減少且逾期率有所改善。季末之后,第一銀行還收到了一筆550萬美元的還款(用於償還一筆問題貸款),而一筆950萬美元的老年住宅項目參貸份額,管理層預計將在第四季度晚些時候得到全額償還。

管理層展望

管理層預計貸款和存款的增長將支撐淨利息收入,並認為淨息差能夠保持穩定且具備潛在的上行空間。第一銀行具有輕微的資產敏感性,有超過25%的資產會在美聯儲調整利率時立即重新定價。不過,管理層提醒稱,較高的存款成本可能會抵消部分收益。

針對2027年,管理層計劃將總貸款增長目標設定在接近3億美元,相比之下,約2億美元的年度目標為近年來的水平。更龐大的項目儲備和新增的投資型房地產額度支撐了這一目標。

該公司的目標是將非利息費用佔平均資產的比例從1.97%降至1.90%,在持續費用控制和資產增長的前提下,可能在2027年中期左右實現。從更長期來看,管理層表示1.80%至1.90%的區間是可以實現的,具體取決於投資機會。

First Bank預計其有效税率將保持在25%或以下。管理層還預計小企業管理局(SBA)貸款銷售活動將支持更高的收益,不過預計短期內非利息收入總額不會發生重大變化。

風險與關注領域

  • 隨着近期利率上升,存款競爭有所加劇。管理層預計計息存款成本將上升,無息存款余額將繼續承壓。
  • 收購會計增計預計將隨着時間的推移而減少,從而對淨息差構成逆風。
  • Business Express仍是信貸損失的主要來源。管理層預計損失將有所趨緩,但表示改善的時間和節奏仍難以預測。
  • 進一步加息可能會推迟新的商業地產項目,或導致借款人重新評估項目的經濟效益,不過管理層在電話會議期間尚未觀察到明顯的萎縮跡象。
  • 2027年的費用率和貸款增長目標取決於嚴格的成本控制以及商業貸款儲備項目的成功轉化。

分析師問答環節要點

在存款方面,管理層表示工商業(C&I)客户關係正在帶來額外存款,同時公司正選擇性地針對大額存單(CD)和流動性更強的產品開展零售促銷。定價依然面臨挑戰,但公司預計具有吸引力的貸款利差將有助於抵消較高的資金成本。

在息差敏感性方面,管理層表示First Bank最初應受益於加息,因為資產中立即重新定價的比例高於負債。本季度末採取的資產負債表舉措——包括減少高成本借款和經紀存款——也支持了管理層對息差保持穩定並可能存在上行空間的預期。

管理層指出,近期新發放貸款的定價普遍在6%高段至7%之間。新發放貸款的季度加權平均利率約為6.90%,其中大多數貸款的定價利差超過200個基點(高於五年期國債或聯邦住房貸款銀行基準)。

關於Business Express,管理層表示,自出現問題以來已實施更嚴格的承保與續約標準。管理層認為該業務板塊能夠恢復盈利,前提是年化信貸成本回歸正常至約2%至3%。

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管理層陳述

Operator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the First Bank Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now hand the conference over to Patrick Ryan, President and CEO. Patrick, please go ahead.

Patrick Ryan

Thank you. I'd like to welcome everyone today to First Bank's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. I am joined by Andrew Hibshman, our Chief Financial Officer; and Peter Cahill, our Chief Lending Officer. Before we begin, Andrew will read the safe harbor statement.

Andrew Hibshman

The following discussion may contain forward-looking statements concerning the financial condition, results of operations and business of First Bank. We caution that such statements are subject to a number of uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially. And therefore, you should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements we make. We may not update any forward-looking statements we make today for future events or developments. Information about risks and uncertainties are described under Item 1A Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, filed with the FDIC. Pat, back to you.

Patrick Ryan

Thanks, Andrew. In the third quarter, we saw continued improvement. Our balance sheet growth continued at a healthy pace, including loans, which were up $50 million during the quarter, and deposits, which increased $43 million during the quarter, leaving us ahead of plan for deposit growth so far this year. Our margin improved nicely to 3.74%, driving our return on average assets back up to 1.18%. Noninterest expense came in at $20.3 million, and our noninterest expense to average assets ratio came down to 1.97%, working towards our goal of 1.90%. Our pre-provision return on average assets came in at 1.79%, an increase of 8 basis points compared to the prior quarter. I wanted to highlight some additional strategic considerations before I turn it over to Andrew and Peter to provide some additional details.

First, I want to point out that our strong capital position gives us significant flexibility, and we intend to pull several levers to optimize our results moving forward. We started by announcing an increase to our quarterly dividend, moving it up to $0.12 per share, a 33% increase. We also announced our new buyback plan, which we intend to use to take advantage of market opportunities as we move forward through the end of this year and into next year. And we also see opportunities to leverage our capital for increased organic growth as our middle market commercial lending businesses gain momentum, and we have additional investor real estate capacity, which Peter will discuss later.

Some earnings tailwinds should help drive continued improved profitability. Specifically, we are modestly asset sensitive, which could help if rates move higher. We have a relatively small investment portfolio, which minimizes our risk for AOCI degradation if rates do move higher. Our expense containment initiatives should help drive efficiency even lower as we move forward. Improved growth rates will help drive efficiency and profitability, and our healthy level of ACL, coupled with improving credit metrics, should create opportunities as well. In summary, we think we're in a good position to finish the year strong and the prospects for even better profitability in 2027 look good. At this time, I'd like to turn it over to Andrew to discuss some additional details of our financial results. Andrew?

Andrew Hibshman

Thanks, Pat. For the 3 months ended September 30, 2026, we recorded net income of $12.2 million or $0.49 per diluted share, which translates to 1.18% return on average assets. Strong net interest income growth and continued operating discipline drove improvement to our bottom line with diluted earnings per share increasing $0.06 or about 12.5% on a linked quarter basis. Net interest income increased $2 million or 5.6% compared to the linked quarter and increased $1.2 million or 3.4% compared to the third quarter of last year. Compared to the linked quarter, net interest income increased primarily due to growth in average earning assets, higher loan yields, disciplined deposit pricing and continued balance sheet optimization.

Loan yields increased 15 basis points linked quarter to 6.48%, while our total cost of deposits increased only 5 basis points to 2.47% -- as a result, our tax equivalent net interest margin expanded 6 basis points to 3.74%. We continue to expect acquisition accounting accretion to decline over time and the competitive environment for deposits remains challenging. These are margin headwinds. However, we have also -- we also continue to see opportunities to grow higher-yielding commercial relationships and optimize our funding and balance sheet mix. We successfully put that strategy into action this quarter by using excess liquidity to pay down $90 million in wholesale borrowings. We've reduced brokered deposits by $44 million and purchased approximately $57 million of low-risk investment securities, offering higher yields than cash.

With these changes, we still have a well-balanced asset and liability position, and we believe continued loan and deposit growth should support net interest income growth regardless of what happens with rates. We're pleased with our loan and deposit growth during the quarter. Loans grew $50.2 million or approximately 6% annualized, led by C&I, owner-occupied commercial real estate and construction lending. Our high-yielding C&I portfolio grew to comprise 22.5% of total loans at the end of Q3 compared to 21.9% a year ago. Credit costs and metrics were generally stable during the quarter. Provision expense was $2.2 million, essentially unchanged from the linked quarter. We did see slightly higher net charge-offs of $1.9 million compared to $1.6 million in the second quarter, and those charge-offs again primarily reflect activity in our Business Express portfolio. This portfolio continues to run down, and we expect any future losses will moderate from recent quarters. We are not seeing any meaningful signs of stress in our other loan segments.

Nonperforming assets rose slightly to $35.7 million during the quarter. However, since quarter end, NPAs have been reduced, and we have seen improvement in some early credit indicators, such as slightly lower delinquencies in our Business Express portfolio so far in October. Our allowance for credit losses remains essentially stable at 1.37% of total loans and represented approximately 132% of nonperforming loans. We believe our reserve coverage ratio remains strong. Our loan growth was supported by another strong quarter of deposit generation with total deposits increasing $43 million or approximately 5% annualized. Continuing to grow deposits while controlling our overall cost of deposits and improving our overall funding profile is a primary focus for us.

During the quarter, we continued to onboard new relationships while expanding existing client relationships. Total deposits increased $43 million or $87 million if you exclude the $44 million decline in brokered deposits, and our cost of deposits rose by just 5 basis points. We saw a point-to-point decline in noninterest-bearing deposits of $48.7 million from June 30 through September 30. However, average noninterest-bearing deposits increased $32 million during the quarter. Some of the point-to-point decline was due to normal fluctuations. However, we are seeing increased pricing pressure with the recent run-up in rates, and we expect this will have an impact on our cost of interest-bearing deposits and put pressure on our noninterest-bearing balances. We remain focused on striking the appropriate balance between growth and pricing discipline. Our teams are incented to generate core profitably based relationship-based deposits, and we expect our efforts will continue to generate meaningful opportunities across our footprint.

Looking ahead, our commercial deposit pipelines remain healthy, and we are using select promos to drive new personal customers to the bank. While we expect heightened industry competition will pressure deposit pricing, we believe our diversified funding base positions us well to support future loan growth while prudently managing funding costs. Noninterest income was $2 million for the third quarter of 2026 compared to $2.1 million in the linked second quarter. We are seeing a nice pipeline of SBA loan sale activity, which should lead to increased gains on loan sales. However, noninterest income continues to be a small portion of our revenue, and we do not expect to see any material changes in the short term. Noninterest expense was $20.3 million for the third quarter, modestly higher than the second quarter and primarily attributable to salaries and employee benefits. The increase in salaries and benefits was primarily driven by 1 additional day during the quarter, increased staff due to our summer intern program and a slight increase in incentive comp due to the stronger performance in Q3.

Despite the increase, we continue to demonstrate favorable operating leverage. Our efficiency ratio improved to 52.4% from 54.5% in the second quarter and marked our 29th consecutive quarter operating below 60%. We believe our efficiency continues to be a significant differentiator for our franchise. We remain highly focused on expense management and have demonstrated a track record of disciplined cost control. Tax expense totaled $4.0 million during the quarter with an effective tax rate of approximately 25%. Consistent with our prior guidance, we continue to anticipate being able to keep our effective tax rate at or below 25%. Our capital ratios remained strong, and capital generation was another highlight of the quarter. Tangible book value per share increased to $16.59 from $16.27 at June 30, representing an annual growth of nearly 8%.

Consistent with our confidence in earnings performance and capital generation, our Board approved a 33% increase in the quarterly dividend. We also received final regulatory approval for a new share repurchase program, authorizing the repurchase of up to 1.2 million shares with an aggregate value of up to $24 million, which will run through September 2027. Our disciplined capital management strategies, including maintaining a relatively modest dividend compared to peers, executing measured stock buybacks and emphasizing more profitable growth has positioned us with significant capital optionality. Going forward, we expect to continue driving shareholder value through a combination of strong asset and core earnings growth, a healthy cash dividend and opportunistic share repurchases. At this time, I'll turn it over to Peter Cahill, our Chief Lending Officer, for his remarks. Peter?

Peter Cahill

Thanks, Andrew. As Pat and Andrew mentioned, we had a good quarter in lending, where loans were up $50 million, which is right on our growth plan for the year. We continue to see good new business. New loans closed and funded during the quarter totaled $124 million, and we had the benefit in the third quarter of a more normalized level of loan payoffs. We had $53 million of loan payoffs this quarter, which is below the average we had in the first half of the year. Final period-end numbers are also impacted by regular principal amortization and fluctuations in line of credit usage.

As the earnings release shows, investor real estate loans, a major part of our business, declined a bit in Q3. We've described in previous meetings that we've been focusing on C&I growth, believing that's where the deposits are and that those types of loans experience less turnover. We saw some good growth in C&I again this quarter, led by our regional banking teams as well as our specialized lending groups. Through September 30, C&I loans, including owner-occupied real estate loans, made up 65% of our new business.

Investor real estate made up around 30%, and the balance was in consumer lending. Regarding business in the pipeline, our new loans pipeline looks good. We look at probable funding on a loan-by-loan basis. And at September 30, probable funding stood at $363 million. For comparison, levels in March and June were $326 million and $323 million, respectively. So we're up about 12% from the average of those 2 quarter ends. This, we hope, will lead to a solid fourth quarter and good beginning to 2027.

Looking at asset quality, I don't have a lot to add to what's been mentioned. Issues coming out of Business Express have slowed, but we're building some optimism there. We've referenced previously a couple of larger problem real estate loans. Some good news on those, although it came post quarter end, Andrew referenced it. Just after the end of the quarter, we received a $5.5 million paydown on one of them. If you recalculated our criticized classified ratio, it would have brought that down to about 2.24%. That's below the average for the past 8 quarters, which is around 240 basis points. Then the other problem real estate loan that we've mentioned briefly in the past, a $9.5 million participation in a loan for a senior living facility, we've learned that an agreement has been accepted by the court and all indications are that, that loan will be paid in full later in the fourth quarter. So we're very happy to hear that as well.

Looking forward, we're doing our best to convert our loan pipeline into new business. We're still focused on meeting the loan growth goal for this year. Beyond the fourth quarter, the business opportunities we're seeing are spread throughout all of our banking units. The regional lending team should continue to do very well. We made a significant addition to our leadership team in the Pennsylvania region, which we hope will drive growth going forward. After a slow start to the year, our SBA team has built a nice pipeline.

Private equity and asset-based lending are both looking at a lot of new business. And in the investor real estate area, more opportunities are being reviewed than they've looked at in past quarters.

With the actions we've taken in targeting C&I relationships, our investor real estate to capital ratio is down well below where it's been in previous years. And we think that creates an opportunity to accelerate loan growth heading into next year. So as a result of what we're seeing throughout the business units, as we think about 2027, we're setting our sights on total loan growth that's up from the $200 million annual number that we've targeted the past couple of years to a targeted growth rate closer to $300 million. So based on all this, I'm pretty optimistic about finishing the year strong and about 2027 as well. That covers it for a lending review, and I'll turn things now back to Pat for final comments. Pat?

Patrick Ryan

Thanks, Peter, and thanks, Andrew, for that additional info. And at this point, I'll turn it back to the operator to open up for Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Bader Hijleh with Piper Sandler.

分析師問答

Bader Hijleh

This is Bader on for Justin. I just wanted to start out on the deposit side of things. That's been a positive story so far this year. So maybe if you guys could talk about how you're thinking about maybe deposits continuing to keep pace to fund loan growth. And then maybe your thoughts on the level of competition on the deposit side as well.

Patrick Ryan

Yes. I'll hit a couple of highlights and turn it over to Andrew. I think the short answer, obviously, is we continue to grow in our C&I book. We're doing, I think, a good job of making sure we're getting a lot of additional relationship deposits. There's also significant fluctuation in that book. So it becomes a little bit tricky to predict quarter-to-quarter, but the underlying trends there certainly seem positive. So that's been good news. And obviously, we still play in the retail space on the deposit side. And from time to time as needed, we'll get competitive with a market rate on a CD or money market. So we continue to look for opportunities to grow in that segment as well. And Andrew, why don't you jump in and talk a little bit about what you've been working on with the retail teams.

Andrew Hibshman

Yes. Just to hit on the pricing pressure, there it's definitely accelerated, obviously, with the run-up in rates over the last month or so, deposit pricing pressure has continued to be stiff. But we're used to that. I mean the markets we're in, we're always dealing with a lot of pricing pressure. We've got some promos we recently rolled out to generate some loan -- deposit growth in the CD market. We're also doing some targeted marketing in some certain industries with like a more liquid promo. That's not a marketed promo, but something we're out letting our teams use to sell. So we're definitely going to see some pressure. Pricing is tough. But on the flip side of that, we're, I think, seeing some good opportunities on the loan side and the spreads are pretty good there. So I do expect that deposit pricing is going to be tough and it's going to move higher, but we think we can offset that in the loan book. And I'm really expecting to see a stable margin. Hopefully, we can see some slight improvement in the margin going forward.

Bader Hijleh

That's helpful. And then just switching gears to the margin. Are you guys able to quantify your comment on the asset repricing benefit you guys have left? And then to the extent to which that -- those floating rate exposures you guys have to mitigate any pressure like you said, on the funding side?

Patrick Ryan

Yes. Well, the good news, we've got 25% plus of our assets that reprice immediately when the Fed moves. Now obviously, there's some giveback there depending on what you need to do on the deposit side, but we have a much smaller percentage of our liabilities that will reprice automatically. And so that gives us time to move slowly and really gauge the market and see where they are. Now over time, you end up having to give some of that back, but you don't need to do it right away. So the short-term benefits are real. But Andrew, if you want to jump in and talk a little more about kind of where you see the margin going? I know it's hard to predict because it's dependent on competition, but anything you want to add there?

Andrew Hibshman

Yes. I think Pat hit it well. I mean, day 1, when the Fed makes a rate change, we see positives, right? We have more assets that reprice immediately. And then on the deposit side, we've been really trying to hold the line as much as we can. But there's obviously a lot of areas where we need to move higher. We are slightly asset sensitive. So just running models. If rates go higher, we do better. So a lot of positive tailwinds we have there from a margin standpoint. But again, I mean, the deposit thing, sometimes you got to take what the market gives you. So there's going to be some added pressure there. But we've historically maintained a very balanced asset-liability position.

We're still in a very similar place than we've been since I've been here over the last 10 years. But we are slightly asset sensitive right now. So as rates move higher, it should be at least a slight benefit, but we'll see how the deposit market shapes up. And we also did some things, as I mentioned, late in the quarter, we paid off some borrow -- higher cost borrowings. We did some reallocation of some cash into investments, right, towards the end of the quarter when rates moved higher, and we let some brokered money roll off the balance sheet as well. So a lot of positive things going on. I think we can confidently say that we can -- we should be able to maintain a stable margin with some upside.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of David Bishop with Hovde Group. Our next question comes from the line of Jake Civiello with D.A. Davidson.

Parker Wittmann

This is Parker Wittmann on for Jake Civiello this morning. I just had one quick question on credit here for you regarding the Business Express portfolio. And apologies if I missed this during the prepared remarks, but any chance you could size up the kind of remaining exposure within the portfolio for runoff and kind of when you expect impacts on net charge-offs, provisioning to be a little bit less meaningful?

Patrick Ryan

Yes, sure. Obviously, it's hard to predict the future. But as Peter mentioned, we're seeing a slowdown in new issues emerging. We're seeing some improvements on the delinquency side. So I don't know that we have a definitive answer, but I think we feel comfortable saying that things are getting better, and we think they will continue to incrementally get better. Obviously, we're probably 18 months out from when we first noticed some challenges there, and we started making significant changes to how we were analyzing, how we were sourcing and onboarding. And so I would tell you that anything new that's been originated, which hasn't been much, has been done according to much tighter standards. Everything that gets renewed is getting done at much tighter standards.

And so again, it's a portfolio given the yields that we don't expect the credit cost to be 0. But if we can get it back down to a more reasonable sort of 2%, even 3% annualized, I think we'll be back to generating profitability out of that segment. And the good news is when you look at charge-offs year-to-date, I think the total might be something around $8.5 million and 95% of that was in the Business Express portfolio, which obviously we're not happy about. But the good news is the non-Business Express charge-offs year-to-date are close to 0. So we're seeing real strong performance throughout the remainder of the portfolio, which is a positive.

And as we mentioned, we had some good news come sort of right after the end of the third quarter, but significant paydown on a nonperformer and a criticized loan that was showing improved performance and got upgraded. And so kind of across the bank, we're seeing some reasons for optimism on credit and Business Express is slowly getting better. But I think as we showed this quarter, even with having to do some additional charge-offs, still able to earn some reasonable returns.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Bishop with Hovde Group.

David Bishop

Can you guys hear me?

Patrick Ryan

Yes, we got you now, Dave.

David Bishop

Perfect. Apologies. I don't know what happened before. Pat, you mentioned before the reduction in the operating expense to average asset ratios getting closer to your 190 target. Is that something you guys are looking to improve upon as you move into '27 and beyond? Just curious if you have any longer-term targets for that ratio?

Patrick Ryan

Well, I think the goal throughout '27 is to get to the 190. We hope it doesn't take us until Q4 to get there. But I think through incremental efforts we've made to contain costs, to reduce costs to slow the growth and that obviously hits the numerator. And while we're concurrently looking to show some decent growth, that hits the denominator. And so we think getting to that 190 at some point sort of during the middle of '27 is possible. Obviously, both things need to happen, right? We've got to slow the expense -- continue to slow the expenses and see the asset growth. But we have reason to believe we can achieve both those goals. And we did a lot of analysis looking back at that ratio over time.

I think sort of pre-COVID, we were operating before we launched some of our new kind of niche commercial businesses in the 180 range. We obviously had some expense increase through the Malvern acquisition and the addition of these new business units. And I think as those business units scale up and we continue to take out costs where we can, longer term, could we get back to the 180? It's certainly possible, Dave. We've been there before, but I think our goal is to get to the 190, and then we'll see where we are. And obviously, it depends on new investment opportunities, right? Getting down to the lower level is good news from a short-term performance perspective. But may also be an indicator that there hadn't been new opportunities that looked like quality investments. So I think living for us, if we can live between the 180 and the 190 and continue to look for little niche growth opportunities, that's probably where we want to be.

David Bishop

Got it. Appreciate that color. And then I don't know if Peter or Andy, any sense in terms of what new loan origination yields were this quarter versus roll-off? And is the third quarter average yield number, the 15 basis point increase, a good number sort of to model a go-forward yield on?

Peter Cahill

Well, Andrew may be -- it will come up with the number, but we continue to price most of our loans at a spread over the 5-year treasury or FHLB, and we're getting spreads north of 200 basis points. So we're pretty consistent there. It's really an exception to the rule when we dip below that spread. Andrew, do you have the numbers handy on what the quarterly average -- weighted average might have been on new business?

Andrew Hibshman

I'll bring it up, give me one more second. But yes, I mean, I think just to add some just high-level commentary on that as I'm pulling it up. Yes, I mean, I think the third quarter, we saw a 15 basis point increase in loan yields and the Fed increased rates on September 18, I think it was. So I think that's a reasonable kind of baseline bottom for where loan yields are going to go as we move forward. Obviously, we're not -- not everything is repricing. But as Pat mentioned, we have a pretty big chunk. A lot of that -- over 25% now is kind of liquid -- more liquid assets, but we have a chunk of loans that are going to move higher immediately when the Fed moves. So yes, we should see nice improvement in loan yields into the fourth quarter, and I'll pull up the origination rates in the second.

Patrick Ryan

Dave, I can tell you going off memory that it depends on the mix, but looking at the last couple of months and just the new originations, I think the average for one of the months was close to 7.25%. One of them might have been down in the sort of 6.75% range. But that's also dependent on what types of loans got originated in those months. So certainly, there's the full quarter benefit of everything that repriced during the quarter that will flow through into Q4. And as Peter said, the market now for most new business is in the high 6s or 7s. And so we think there's still good opportunities to make a good spread there.

Andrew Hibshman

Yes. So just to put some exact numbers on that, the weighted average spread for the quarter was about 6.90%.

David Bishop

6.90%. And then just curious, with the backup in rates, notwithstanding what happened, I guess, yesterday, have you seen the gear sort of lock up or slow on the commercial real estate front there as projects maybe require more equity or tougher to debt service coverage? Just curious what you're hearing from your folks on the ground.

Patrick Ryan

Yes. Listen, I think when you see a big change, like we saw yesterday, that can cause people to try to get back to the table to renegotiate if there's still wiggle room on a deal that's sort of in process. But I don't think it's really gumming up the general traditional like I had a 5-year loan that came due, I got to refinance and roll it over. You're going to do it -- you're going to try to get the best rate you can, but you're not going to not refinance it and it may slow things down a little bit and new projects that haven't come out of the ground yet, people might sharpen their pencil and make sure the projects still make sense. But the short answer is we have not seen a significant pullback or slowdown based on what's happened over the last month or 2. But if they move again, is that a potential risk? Yes, certainly, it is.

David Bishop

Got it. I appreciate that color. And I guess one final for me. I guess I maybe missed the announcement on the new market President, the new leader. Any color you can provide there in terms of his background, et cetera?

Patrick Ryan

Yes. No, we're excited. Dan Cuneo joined the team, I think, about 1.5 months ago, and Dan's got a breadth of experience at community banks and regional banks, all within that Southern Jersey, Southeastern PA market. And so we're excited. We think he's going to be a great addition, and we're looking forward to seeing a rev up on the growth side with him helping to lead the team there.

Operator

We have reached the end of the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to Patrick Ryan, President and CEO, for closing remarks.

Patrick Ryan

Okay. Thanks, everyone. We appreciate your time today. Appreciate your interest in First Bank, and we look forward to regrouping with everybody once we get through the end of fourth quarter. Thanks, everyone.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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